tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8947514984021363360.post2883809096652394217..comments2023-10-26T08:35:15.266-06:00Comments on The Oort Cloud: UnicornitarianismClowncarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02219213001049223673noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8947514984021363360.post-36425549009015192412009-03-10T10:37:00.000-06:002009-03-10T10:37:00.000-06:00Eric, I think "where" is an easier concept to grab...Eric, I think "where" is an easier concept to grab onto than "who." Littlest asked me this weekend if Barbie was "alive." So "who" is still a little problematic.<BR/><BR/>Bliss, that's very funny about your sister. I was raised strongly Baptist and watched my parents go from Baptist to agnostic. Which may explain why I'm an atheist than spends an inordinate amount of time thinking and talking about religion. <BR/><BR/>Hey, Vic, you hit the nail on the head. That utter terror of nothingness is at the core of all of this.<BR/><BR/>Yikes, Noel. I have several relatives who would burn me at the stake for telling their kids that heaven was "a state of mind." Highly charged subject. We've gotten chastised for not praying at the dinner table.<BR/><BR/>"Born Again Unitarian" is pretty funny, Meno.<BR/><BR/>That's a really interesting comment, Rudi - my wife and I discussed that one for awhile. I think my fear, though, is that I'll traumatize them with the whole after-you-die-there-is-only-nothingness scenario. I just can't bring myself to tell them about heaven when I don't believe in it.<BR/><BR/>That Catholic stuff is so strange to me, Irr. I went to a Catholic wedding once, with all the trappings, and it was like watching Spock getting married on Star Trek. All weird rituals I didn't understand.Clowncarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02219213001049223673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8947514984021363360.post-65377456581098086652009-03-06T19:26:00.000-07:002009-03-06T19:26:00.000-07:00Well played, old bean. Straight truth as Dad sees...Well played, old bean. Straight truth as Dad sees it. I had to break out of a childhood populated by Limbo and Beasts with Seven Horns and Whores of Babylon and all that Catholic stuff before I could think for myself and realise that Heaven is just an excuse not to think too hard about the fact that, some day, some way, your life is going to stop.<BR/><BR/>You done good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8947514984021363360.post-79549823479106152342009-03-06T10:31:00.000-07:002009-03-06T10:31:00.000-07:00On the subject of Unitarians: You should be very w...On the subject of Unitarians: You should be very wary of the whole interaction...<BR/><BR/>There might well be some "insanely" reasonable, likable, helpful, intelligent, nurturing people there. :-)<BR/><BR/>Years ago my wife started to take our kids to the local UU Church. I stayed home, cleaned and made lunch. I didn't want or need Church.<BR/><BR/>The kids liked it. They got involved.<BR/><BR/>One day I was asked to help setup tables and chairs for an event. Sure. I was happy to help. Long story short: I'm a regular there now. Never thought it would happen to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8947514984021363360.post-8870931200657040592009-03-06T09:19:00.000-07:002009-03-06T09:19:00.000-07:00I think we are all secretly afraid our children wi...I think we are all secretly afraid our children will become more religious than we are.<BR/><BR/>Hold a greater faith in someone/something that is not us that gave them life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8947514984021363360.post-63073346916637300902009-03-05T21:45:00.000-07:002009-03-05T21:45:00.000-07:00We joke at our house about "Born Again Unitarians....We joke at our house about "Born Again Unitarians."<BR/><BR/>You told your truth to them. Nothing else you can do.menohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18065283682414369608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8947514984021363360.post-48886449200897883672009-03-05T21:26:00.000-07:002009-03-05T21:26:00.000-07:00I think you handled it well. More so than I did wh...I think you handled it well. More so than I did when my niece asked me. My sister doesn't want to subject the kids to Catholic school--which my parents subjected my sister and I to for 13 years (including kindergarten--it left us very jaded and pessimistic).<BR/>My sister still believes where I do not.<BR/>I told my niece that heaven is a state of mind. Like when she gets focused when she plays video games or when I'm trying to read and ignore people. But this state of mind is really relaxed, like when you wake up from a nice restful sleep.<BR/><BR/>This set off a whole series of questions that she then started to ask my sister, which now my sister hates me for.Noelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07375506966836719051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8947514984021363360.post-87257493270069385752009-03-05T16:24:00.000-07:002009-03-05T16:24:00.000-07:00That's cute. "Unicornitarian." My up bringing and ...That's cute. "Unicornitarian." My up bringing and childhood, I had a heaven concept, so no matter where my mind goes from there, it can't help but try and drift back to something along those lines. Its strange, seeing how your mind is sometimes hardwired. But I think I continue to grasp the concept of an afterlife or reincarnation for one simple reason- the idea of "dying dying" i.e. "no longer existing" utterly and completely terrifies me. Despite the fact that I recognize I would no longer exist to cognate that fear, the idea of going into that nothingness and that being the end is a terrifying thought for me.Wizardryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10180287388143837392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8947514984021363360.post-56027794384142132432009-03-05T15:14:00.000-07:002009-03-05T15:14:00.000-07:00I think you approached that very rationally. It's ...I think you approached that very rationally. It's a good way to touch on the topic (as is the UU church, I think).<BR/><BR/>I don't remember ever having these discussions with my parents. Granted, my household was blatantly areligious. At a young age I went to church sometimes with family friends, but even by that point, I had already dismissed religion in my mind as hokey.<BR/><BR/>Still, you'd be surprised how much this will change over time. Right now you have a unicornitarian and a silent girl, but over their lives they'll come into contact with a lot of people and places. You're giving them a good basis for forming their own opinions, it seems. My parents raised me and my sister in a rather atheistic (or at least agnostic) household. My sister is now devoutly Christian, where I consider myself an atheist (and laugh about it regularly). There are a lot of things you can't plan for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8947514984021363360.post-77978742718516997762009-03-05T10:32:00.000-07:002009-03-05T10:32:00.000-07:00Interesting how it's place that comes up. Where, ...Interesting how it's place that comes up. Where, rather than who.<BR/><BR/>I think you handled it well.Eric Shonkwilerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14037998216225336724noreply@blogger.com